Moderator: Steven Burg, Professor and Chair of the Department of Politics, Brandeis University
Introduction: Michael Ignatieff, Writer; Visiting Professor, Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University (Commission Member)
Mr. Ignatieff began the discussion by stating that in 1999, the international community should have known that the revocation of Kosovo's autonomy was part of a campaign for a greater Serbia. Yet, nobody saw the consequences as serious. Furthermore, they saw it as an internal matter. Looking back, we can now say that we should have intervened. Northern Ireland served as good example of addressing minority rights violations and can serve as a model of prevention as internationalization. Could Milosevic have done the same thing? He would have had to legitimize his enemy, which helps to ensure that a situation won't get violent. Yet, legitimizing a mortal enemy is difficult and thus always a huge obstacle. How do you promote legitimization and create political conditions in which people can talk before they begin shooting? The Commission exposed the gulf between legality and legitimacy. What do we do when interventions may be ethically legitimate, but are not legal? Where does one go for the criteria to establish legitimacy, to begin to close the gap? He suggested looking to philosophy, just war theory, and Thomas Aquinas where issues such as right authority, right intention, proportionality, and reasonable hope are addressed. From these sources, one can begin to generate a limited frame of justifiable intervention. However, Ignatieff questioned the possibility of closing a gap that is essentially a political question. Powerful countries have a different set of criteria than those with less power. There is a feeling that a "fix" can be achieved using international law, but he questions if that is possible. We are in the midst of a hugely important historical period of state formation and fragmentation. He discussed areas that he referred to as "the most severe crisis zones," such as the middle of Africa or Central Asia, areas experiencing ethnic conflict at its worst and the most severe human rights violations. Some of the parties have nuclear weapons. He expressed his deep concern with the reality that the international community has no coherent policy on how to proceed in these types of situations. These "most severe crisis zones" are not even a priority for many political leaders. In conclusion, Ignatieff asked, how can we create state order in these areas and protect human rights? He suggested the following: 1) early intervention, 2) legitimize all actors, and 3) address the substantive areas where humanitarian intervention needs to occur.
Panel Discussion
The following is a representative sampling of questions and issues raised by members of the panel:
- What does it take to move a group or country from one of violence to managing difference through a culture of bargaining?
- How do we get the international community to pay more attention to situations like Kosovo?
- How can we mobilize the international community take more immediate action?
- Did military intervention in Kosovo meet the standards set forth in the Commission's report?
- Is it possible to be moral and operational? If a moral argument can't be utopian, how can it be integrated into the various theories of intervention?
- Regarding the role of the media in drawing attention to humanitarian crises, do you have to wait until after the atrocities start? Historically, after the media presents the public with images from the famines, natural disasters, and wars, then public opinion is galvanized.
- How long do we debate the facts before we act? This was played out in Rwanda and it took far too long for the media and others to come to an understanding.
- What about the fact that there have been more severe human rights disasters in recent history (e.g. Rwanda, Congo) which did not receive the same international response?
- If human rights violations are only the expression of ethnic conflict, how can the root cause be addressed and by whom?
- If the debate about humanitarian intervention is too legalistic, could it be that those framing the debate are not opening the discussion wide enough for others to join?
- Is just "doing something" a strategy or a way to promote human rights, particularly when it means dropping bombs, destroying a society, and trying to recreate it?
- What about the ethics of spending money and lives on trying to get a few people to live together and ignoring many other people's suffering without conflict but with conditions such as AIDS, poverty, and hunger?
- How can the use of truth and reconciliation committees, tribunals, and reparations be constructed in a way that doesn't produce new resentments and cleavages?
- Can there be recognition without redress and justice?
Open Discussion
Audience members raised the following questions and considerations:
- Real intervention means changing our life circumstances of exploitation. Unless we think about the future, we will always be faced with problems of Kosovo. We have to overcome these tendencies, and understand that this world is for all of us.
- If military intervention results in changing borders, what would be result of another type of intervention?
- The biggest problem with the proposal of Kosovo independence, at this time, is the lack of a broader regional perspective.
Women's leadership, NGOs, Diaspora could and should become involved in the research agenda and development of public policies.
- We need to add the concept of activist intervention for justice to the discourse.
Conclusion: Michael Ignatieff
In intervention and prevention, we are always fighting the last war.
Regarding process questions, perhaps the most important thing is to just get a dialogue going. This is crucial and nothing is more important for the future of Kosovo.
The Albanian leadership has to be told that they must talk to talk to the Serbs about what has occurred and continues to occur.
It is a two-track process:
- External track, in which you have beginnings of international negotiations between UNMIK and Belgrade; can see trust-building agenda; civil society track. It gets Serbs and Albanians to talk internally and externally.
- Internal track, local elections, national elections, constituent assembly, write a constitution. Move toward referendum at some point, with timing determined by international community. It generates institutions for independence.
Roundtable Conclusion
Justice Goldstone noted that in writing the report, no Commission member compromised his or her principles. Views did change, facts changed and even philosophical issues changed, which demonstrates the value of the Commission being independent of government or any particular philosophy. No one member, he said, could have written this report. He was grateful for the opportunity to have this type of forum to discuss the report and learn from its findings. The event served as an opportunity to not only examine the past -- the causes of Kosovo and the steps that were or were not taken -- but to look forward and consider how we can incorporate the lessons of Kosovo into future decisions where intervention on humanitarian grounds is a consideration. The forum raised a great deal of lively conversation, often with disagreement on very substantial points. However, there was one area of consensus: the importance of addressing continued human rights violations and how they played out in Kosovo and continue to do so both there and in other parts of the world. Daniel Terris concluded the forum by emphasizing the responsibility of universities to carry on a mission and sense of engagement; a responsibility to engage and educate our students, not only about Kosovo, but to take seriously these issues around the world.